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Post by jakec79 on Feb 18, 2014 16:20:00 GMT
So after five episodes we have a dead suspect who was supposed to be behind the murders, but then the murders keep happening. In 2012, the detectives seem to be focusing on Cohle being involved. Who is going to be the one responsible for the murders after everyone thought the case was closed? Is it one person, is it a group?
My guess is Hart has to be involved somehow. He seems to lose it pretty easily and his life is falling apart. Wonder what others think.
Jake
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Post by Admin on Feb 18, 2014 16:22:20 GMT
Yes, Marty's life is way more interesting than it appeared early on in the season. His father-in-law is intriguing. I've said it a lot--what happens matters, but not as much as we think. Cohle's mantra seems to focus on 1) life doesn't matter, 2) we are all good/evil, 3) everything repeats itself. I think some people will be disappointed with what happens, but I'm immune to it. The "point" of the show isn't where the plot is going. For me, it's about human nature in general.
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Post by jakec79 on Feb 18, 2014 16:28:29 GMT
I agree with you. I mean the creator said from the beginning that it isn't a "who done it", but more following the characters through a man hunt. Just makes you wonder who is responsible for the later deaths. That being said, can't wait until next Sunday. I love shows that make you want the week to go by quickly. I quoted this from the website down below which has 10 theories on the show. #10 happens to be my favorite. "Primarily, Nic Pizzolatto’s statement that True Detective “takes the form of a manhunt, so it’s more of a thriller than any sort of whodunit.” In other words, the mystery surrounding who the killer is secondary to the main thrust of True Detective: The manhunt. That may suggest that the bulk of the remaining episodes will not be driven by the killer’s identity, but by the search for him. Moreover, the 2012 section of True Detective, Pizzolatto suggests, is about Cohle’s obsession with the possibility that there were more people involved in the original Dora Lange killing. McConaughey also says that his character is trying to learn more from the interviewing detectives in 2012 so he can get back on the case and solve it. " The Internet’s 10 Craziest Crackpot Theories On ‘True Detective’ And Why They’re Probably All Wrong Read more: www.uproxx.com/tv/2014/02/x-best-crackpot-theories-true-detective-theyre-probably-wrong/#ixzz2tgx0kJJi |
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Post by Rags65 on Feb 18, 2014 16:33:27 GMT
I read the ep. 5 marks the end of Cohle's monologues. I dont see how that can be true, but I guess anything can be. Maybe Rust has told us all we need to know......
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Post by robertthebruce on Feb 18, 2014 16:37:02 GMT
Hart's father in law is involved some how. I think this goes all the way up to the Governor.
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Post by guest on Feb 18, 2014 16:46:29 GMT
I read the ep. 5 marks the end of Cohle's monologues. I dont see how that can be true, but I guess anything can be. Maybe Rust has told us all we need to know...... Considering he walked out of the interrogation room it seems pretty clear that part is at an end. |
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Post by Rags65 on Feb 18, 2014 16:49:38 GMT
He's had some good monologues in the car, too. I think he could talk anywhere, but I get your point. We're jumping around in time pretty well, I think they could go back to any setting. Some are bemoaning Ledoux's quick demise (Dan Maaahnelll) but he could still show up as part of the action....in theory.
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Post by Chuck on Feb 18, 2014 17:57:25 GMT
I was fascinated by the inclusion of M-theory into the story. M-theory is a theory in cosmology that our universe was created by the intersection/collision of two membranes that exist in dimensions that we cannot perceived. When the membranes collide, a Big Bang occurs and a new, three dimensional universe is created. Reaching here, but maybe this story is about a collision of two objects that results in a Big Bang. Are those objects Rust and Marty? The murderers and the police? Maybe it's analyzing several collisions.
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Post by muzik on Feb 18, 2014 18:08:06 GMT
The man who actually perpetrated the murder of Dora Lange is the guy who is cutting the grass at the school. We hear through-out the narrative of a tall man with shiny cheeks and a so called spaghetti monster, see for yourself below… Also through-out Cohle’s “interrogation” it becomes clearer, upon re watch, he is testing the two detectives who are questioning him. At one point he asks if they know about the old school, where he met the guy on the lawnmower and was seen re-canvasing in the latest episode, and Cohle shifts the narrative based on the two detectives response (do not recall if we are privy to that). I think we all know some odd Christian cult is at work here but we do not know for sure how far it reaches. Cohle definitely believes it reaches most of the police department, which is why he is testing them during the whole “interrogation”. Without reading far into it, it’s funny how a man on a lawnmower maybe the guy who was the killer, and we had an entire scene with Cohle and Hart arguing over a lawnmower which everyone assumed was a euphemism of Hart thinking Cohle was getting fresh with Mrs. Hart. Another possible tie is in the Grandfather being a part of the holier than thou cult (he espouses to Hart about today’s folk not being like before and all dressed in black…which is what his granddaughter is today), and the main members and yellow king could be the ones clad in the hooded mardi gras costumes when they were talking to dora langes mom in episode one. We have some odd cult type cleansing stuff going on here…and it for sure is creeping me out.  |
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Post by Unreal Donahue on Feb 18, 2014 18:13:30 GMT
I'm curious as to why some of you feel like Hart's father-in-law is involved.
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Post by spiegs on Feb 18, 2014 18:23:28 GMT
Great catch on the lawnmower man.
Hart pulls Cohle away from that conversation with the Ledoux info and the repeated horn honking.
I think we're dealing with multiple killers here, all killers united in collectively letting evil get the best of them. Even Cohle. Ledoux says to him "You're one of them." Cohle has killed before, he's admitted...and we'll see if he indeed kills Tuttle.
But I highly doubt there's one killer at the end of this. The Yellow King might be all of them, or us.
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Post by kurtis8784 on Feb 18, 2014 18:24:13 GMT
The man who actually perpetrated the murder of Dora Lange is the guy who is cutting the grass at the school. We hear through-out the narrative of a tall man with shiny cheeks and a so called spaghetti monster, see for yourself below…
Also through-out Cohle’s “interrogation” it becomes clearer, upon re watch, he is testing the two detectives who are questioning him. At one point he asks if they know about the old school, where he met the guy on the lawnmower and was seen re-canvasing in the latest episode, and Cohle shifts the narrative based on the two detectives response (do not recall if we are privy to that). I think we all know some odd Christian cult is at work here but we do not know for sure how far it reaches. Cohle definitely believes it reaches most of the police department, which is why he is testing them during the whole “interrogation”. Without reading far into it, it’s funny how a man on a lawnmower maybe the guy who was the killer, and we had an entire scene with Cohle and Hart arguing over a lawnmower which everyone assumed was a euphemism of Hart thinking Cohle was getting fresh with Mrs. Hart. Another possible tie is in the Grandfather being a part of the holier than thou cult (he espouses to Hart about today’s folk not being like before and all dressed in black…which is what his granddaughter is today), and the main members and yellow king could be the ones clad in the hooded mardi gras costumes when they were talking to dora langes mom in episode one. We have some odd cult type cleansing stuff going on here…and it for sure is creeping me out.
Could be the guy on the lawn mower. The "green ears" of the Spaghetti Monster could be from the grass. However, I initially felt like The Spaghetti Monster was Reggie Ledoux. His blonde hair, beard, and the gas mask hanging from his face made sense to me. Plus, his "green ears" would also be from the gas mask. |
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Post by sangamo on Feb 18, 2014 18:46:52 GMT
It's a conspiracy reaching up at least to the Governor's cousin, the televangelist or whatever he is, who sought the transfer of the case to the special task force.
The only question I have about that is whether the two 2012 detectives are in on it.
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Post by muzik on Feb 18, 2014 18:59:46 GMT
To clarify...I think for sure larger reaching cult behind the murders and all the other mysterious goings on. And it definitely reaches to the Governor since he was all about outlawing satanic type graffiti. I just think the lawnmower dude is more tied into the physical carrying out of the dora murder. I am probably wrong...just fun to throw theories out.
And now the more i think about it, i wonder if this cult kills the girls in some odd group setting then symbolically lay the body out in a public setting to send a message to those who need to be spiritually cleansed in the cults eyes.
And wasn't the remake of Dragent with Tom Hanks about some sort of ritual cult killing?
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Post by julied on Feb 18, 2014 19:24:39 GMT
If a religious cult winds up being behind all the murders (with a bunch of holier-than-though politicos involved), I'll be so disappointed. That's so been done. I think we all agree that the story is in the journey, not the killer, but still. The show is so much smarter than that.
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